Deborah Roberts

Absolutely.

He was not happy.

He was not happy in this situation.

Well, it's not lost on anybody in seeing this story that we're talking about a woman dying in a fiery crash, and she's married to a firefighter.

Exactly right.

And so the idea that he could have done this and engineered it and clearly knows a lot about fires, which is also telling,

that, you know, that was kind of the fatal flaw.

I mean, the way this was executed, he is a firefighter who has gone into fires and knows what to look for.

And sure enough, it winds up revealing so much about him.

But you match that with the forensics, and you have a case.

And you have a case.

Well, they definitely had a case.

So, Juju, let's talk about that when we come back.

We are going to look into the fact that James was charged in his wife's murder.

And we're going to take you into the court proceedings and the sentencing and also the possibility that he may at some point be a free man again.

So stay with us.

We're going to talk more about what happened with James when we come back.

Welcome back, everybody, to 2020 The After Show.

I am talking with Juju Chang here about her most recent report, Footprints in the Snow.

And this one just had so many of us not only talking, but scratching our heads.