Deborah Roberts

But she discovers, I mean, her life kind of explodes in her face when she discovers, what, unpaid bills?

be capable of killing his ex-wife and he could be capable of killing me and she took her kids in the middle of the night and and left well that was a key point of the story let's talk about that because nick would tell police that they were about to be evicted from the first home he and heidi and that was very pivotal in that investigation because their finances were a mess he says his wife knew about it but her family and friends said that yeah she didn't know anything about this

So this case has gone on for a while in terms of the unsolved murder.

Yes.

Nothing has happened.

But now Rachel is kind of ready to move on.

She wants to leave him.

And it's not an easy thing for her to do.

I remember she told us about that.

And we'll talk more about her interview.

But then a new detective hits the scene and it would be a woman detective, which I always loved.

Nicole Sipes.

Well, this happens in our stories a lot where somebody new hits the scene and they look at the evidence again.

They look at the story.

So Sergeant Sipes starts looking at this case and she thinks something is odd.

Oftentimes, these female detectives bring something that is a little bit different to these unsolved murders.

And she started looking at it from a female perspective of the women who did not know.

And in this case, Rachel, who suddenly now sees something.

So

Talk about how she brought a new breath of air to this case.