Deborah Roberts

Yes, she brought the FBI to the case, which had not previously been involved.

Correct.

There's no evidence that they were being evicted or that she knew about it.

And the other thing is Nick wasn't really pressing police to try to solve this murder over the years.

Yeah.

And so that was also very troubling to her.

So she starts thinking about him in a very different way.

Yes.

Everybody had clammed up around him.

Nobody was actually giving anything, but she's looking.

So then the biggest bombshell in this case and what we revealed in our story were these secret recordings.

Yeah.

So Rachel, and with Sergeant Sipes' suggestion, begins recording her conversations with Nick.

And she's feeling a little uncomfortable about it, but she's now kind of upset and wants to know, is he lying?

We revealed some of these recordings.

They were never heard in court, by the way, but we revealed some of these in our 2020 episode you might have heard, but then there are also little clips that you have not heard, including this one.

Take a listen.

This is pretty incredible stuff, Brooke, when you think about it, because here's a guy who's, you know, very religious guy, very much of faith.

And he's talking about how he's not honest, which was quite an admission.

Rachel is kind of, I mean, I don't know, kind of states evidence at this point.