Debra Kamin

They were trying to use the law to prove that they had a right to be there.

And they're very confident with their ability to continue doing this and not just live in this one community in Arkansas, but actually create other communities exactly like them all across the country.

And that raised a very urgent question.

Can they get away with this?

Is it legal?

And if so, what does that mean for other communities who want to do the exact same thing?

So my instincts as a reporter were, well, if they're saying this, I need to go see it for myself.

So to get access to this community, I called Eric Orwell.

He's one of their two co-founders.

And he was relatively welcoming.

They have a big gate at the front on this dirt road that padlocks.

He opened it for me.

We came in.

And he gave me a limited tour of the community.

Show me what you want to show us.

I'll ask you what I want to ask you, and we'll go from there.

Sure.

If you've got questions for us, we'll take them, too.

All right.

So the community is in this very small town called Ravendon, Arkansas.