Defense Attorney

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369 appearances 32 recordings 8 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard 18 Dec

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All right. A true Bostonian.
He didn't have any coat, gloves, scarf, nothing like that.
He had no winter gear on whatsoever, correct?
Under ordinary circumstances, and you may be the exception, but under ordinary circumstances, if someone was out in 18 degree weather, you might expect they would have some winter garb, right? And you certainly would expect that if someone took their coat, their glove, their hat, their winter gear off, you might leave it inside the house, right? Rather than outside the house.
Reasonable assumption might be the winter gear might be inside the house. It's not reasonable that he would have his jacket inside the house. You wouldn't just assume that?
Correct.
All right. You didn't think it was reasonable at the time.
To even ask. But he'd have a jacket off inside the house. And I'm talking about at the time, the initial stages of the investigation.
So I'm asking if you believe it was reasonable if a man is found 30 feet outside the front door of a home and he's got no winter gear on whatsoever, that perhaps he came from inside the home not having donned his winter gear.
You also know that he didn't have a shoe on, correct?
Where might you look for the shoe if you didn't find it out by his body initially?
Well, the facts you had at the initial stages, I'm talking about just after 6.30, 7.30 in the morning when the investigation was beginning. During those times, you didn't have any information about where the other shoe was, except he just didn't have a shoe on at the hospital, correct?
So when you did find out that there was a shoe unaccounted for, one place to look might be outside, correct? Yes.
And another place to look might be inside the hall, right?
You also are aware that a body that's being dragged by the shoulders could easily lose a shoe. Have you ever experienced a homicide in which a body is dragged and you're aware of a shoe being pulled off while the body's being dragged?
Certainly not outside the realm of possibility as a professional investigator.
You're also aware that, at least initially, it appeared from accounts that John O'Keefe may have been involved in a physical altercation, correct?
As a matter of fact, that was reported by one of your subordinates, Uri Buchanek, to the medical examiner's office, right?
As a possibility. And you're aware that your other subordinate, Trooper Proctor, according to certain information he had gotten from first responders, also believed that a physical altercation was possible.
Okay. And you also knew that the house would be a normal location to have other individuals who might have been involved in that physical altercation.
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