Derval MacDonald

Look, a lot of people took heart in recent days from that pushback.

Do you think that there is a potential resilience lesson there for democracies that have been struggling with very, very difficult, far right, as distinct from conservative... And there are two elements of that.

Who has been on a remarkable political journey.

Absolutely.

The risk is still dark here, isn't it?

Particularly, as Mick said, if there is another financial crisis.

And I think it was that Peter Conrad.

Road of palaces in Orban's hometown is the signpost as to why he lost the election.

It's that kind of polarisation and pitting us against each other.

Just as interesting, one of our listeners, Mimi, sent us an email.

She said, I'm one of those citizens who was imprisoned.

That's the word she uses.

Who was imprisoned in my home last weekend.

Both my husband and I had hospital appointments and I were back on the waiting list.

We both have illness and disability.

By all means, make your voice heard.

But this lawlessness was horrifying.

It's not democratic.

You know, so that, you know, people are, were not necessarily all at Eidam.

You know, there was a lot of support for the protest, but there were many people who were... Absolutely.