Desiree Burch

So like, was it that Southern slavery was more industrial and Northern slavery was more sort of personal for like moneyed families? Why are there double digit number slaves in Southern plantations, but like only a handful in the North?

So like, was it that Southern slavery was more industrial and Northern slavery was more sort of personal for like moneyed families? Why are there double digit number slaves in Southern plantations, but like only a handful in the North?

Oh, yeah, because it's New York, so Dutch, right? Yeah, good knowledge. Yeah, because there's so much weird Dutch stuff in New York that you're like, huh? Yeah, I mean, New Amsterdam.

Oh, yeah, because it's New York, so Dutch, right? Yeah, good knowledge. Yeah, because there's so much weird Dutch stuff in New York that you're like, huh? Yeah, I mean, New Amsterdam.

Just one by one, they all kind of get sold off to a place. Yeah, I mean, it is really, really dark. Like once your first kid is sold off, it's like constantly waiting for the next shoe to drop, both for the parents and for the kids of like, when am I going to get pulled away? Like I'm sure after the first one or two, then you're just preparing for the worst constantly and waiting for it.

Just one by one, they all kind of get sold off to a place. Yeah, I mean, it is really, really dark. Like once your first kid is sold off, it's like constantly waiting for the next shoe to drop, both for the parents and for the kids of like, when am I going to get pulled away? Like I'm sure after the first one or two, then you're just preparing for the worst constantly and waiting for it.

And what does, you know, I mean, we talk about anxiety now.

And what does, you know, I mean, we talk about anxiety now.

You know what I mean? There was no Wellbutrin. There was no counseling, you know, and like, yeah, no one to talk to about the fact, you know, you just had to. Anyway, it's the worst. It sounds terrible.

You know what I mean? There was no Wellbutrin. There was no counseling, you know, and like, yeah, no one to talk to about the fact, you know, you just had to. Anyway, it's the worst. It sounds terrible.

Oh, my God, how weird. Some English-speaking people were weird about somebody else not speaking their language. Right. Being like, what's this weird?

Oh, my God, how weird. Some English-speaking people were weird about somebody else not speaking their language. Right. Being like, what's this weird?

If you're going to learn English, learn the important stuff first. Yeah. Anytime you learn another language.

If you're going to learn English, learn the important stuff first. Yeah. Anytime you learn another language.

Yeah, but obviously everybody's experience is relative to their, you know, context and circumstances. So if all you've done is grown up enslaved and you are, you know, like obviously you've been put into hopefully a better position than you were before with a different family that was really horrible. And if somebody is now giving you respect

Yeah, but obviously everybody's experience is relative to their, you know, context and circumstances. So if all you've done is grown up enslaved and you are, you know, like obviously you've been put into hopefully a better position than you were before with a different family that was really horrible. And if somebody is now giving you respect

for your work all the while there's someone right next to you who's sucks like everybody else sucks so that you're kind of like okay well that's something at least someone is seeing some part of my humanity Michelle we get a marriage for Isabella or Belle

for your work all the while there's someone right next to you who's sucks like everybody else sucks so that you're kind of like okay well that's something at least someone is seeing some part of my humanity Michelle we get a marriage for Isabella or Belle

I don't know if there's like a state thing about slavery or something that happens because, okay, because that's going to come to the South later, but like it comes to the North earlier. So I don't know if they abolish slavery or if they change the rules to make it better or something. Yeah. I mean, I love the way you figured that out.

I don't know if there's like a state thing about slavery or something that happens because, okay, because that's going to come to the South later, but like it comes to the North earlier. So I don't know if they abolish slavery or if they change the rules to make it better or something. Yeah. I mean, I love the way you figured that out.