Desiree Burch

They were just literally like, we will just splice the film just in case.

I'm like, I know her hair and makeup was bad because it's not good now.

So I can only imagine.

I mean, Light Egyptian.

I imagine that that was the makeup color skin tone that they were going for and not like the name of the perm they were using on the hair.

I may need to repeat half of that because I went for a tailspin the second you said that the hairdresser was not allowed to touch her head.

Is this like a Jim Crow thing?

Like no water fountains, no hair, you can't touch your head because it'll bite your fingers off.

I mean, if she's hanging out with Paul Robeson and doing all the organising, is she about to get a big C stamped all over her?

Because this is that time, right?

I mean, I suppose Senator Joe McCarthy... Not cancer kits.

OK, OK.

No idea what Lenny did or what he was like.

He was just a white man she didn't trust.

But then she did enough to marry him.

He gave her a career in Europe and then he dipped.

He was just like, I'm a plot device, bye!

When you see her in The Wiz, there is no question that she has gotten icon status because she just appears like ethereally and is like, believe in yourself, I'm out.

Yeah, because I'm like, I remember her dying in a whole different millennia.

it's not a story i knew at all other than the song stormy weather that's all i knew as a reference point and you had your own reference point so yeah from encountering that and also like when you talked about her at the beginning like obviously i live long enough to see her in her later years and her past ways so i knew that like things were relatively happy but when you talked about her beginning being sort of like oh things were actually pretty well set up in black middle class that usually goes one of two ways like usually it's sort of like stable or it's like a