Devlin

I mean, look at how poor that crowd was in Hamilton for that top of the table clash.

Look how poor that crowd was in Wellington for the Blues and the Hurricanes game.

You look at Eden Park on Friday night, and it was.

It was a cemetery with chips, wasn't it, against the Highlanders?

I know the sort of the player power or suddenly, you know, players sort of trying to get rid of a coach.

Look, Whitney Hanson, it's great, isn't it?

It's like, you know, one of the biggest problems that's been facing women's sport particularly is bringing coaches through and having depth and quality coaches.

And, you know, when you've got an organisation, you want the best coaches.

And I think when we won the World Cup here, it was good having Graham Henry and Wayne Smith.

They were the best coaches and that's what you want.

I think sometimes there's a danger you go we're a women's team and therefore we've got to have a women's coach or a male team therefore we've got to have a male coach etc and so yes look she's brought a difference to it I watched the game I was actually working I had it on in studio and it was you know we were actually playing a lot tighter we were actually pick and go we're looking to go up through the middle at times we're going a little bit lateral but then

You know, we were resetting and you said we capitalised on errors, but I thought we were very, very good on defence as well.

Now, look, it's only one test over Canada.

We've got to do it consistently.

What's the gap to England?

I still can say it's considerably bigger than where we are.

And I'd encourage our players to spend more time in the UK.

You know, we talk about picking players from overseas.

I think with the women's game, I don't think there's any point to even try and build a domestic game.

No one's going to turn it.