Devlin

But I'm looking at more commercially.

So when you're asking me...

Can Moana Pacifica work here in Auckland?

Can the Blues work?

Can a franchise exist in Auckland commercially?

I think the commercial dollar and the commercial interest sits with rugby league.

And I think commercially in terms of entertainment, where people want to go, where people want to spend their discretionary income, it's more around the Warriors and rugby league than it is now around rugby.

Yes, participation numbers in rugby might be greater, but then rugby league is a bit of a hard sport.

It's a bit of a mongrel sport.

A lot of parents don't want their kids playing it.

It is tough by nature.

But commercially...

Fan base wise, where the interest levels are at, this is a rugby league city.

It is not a rugby town.

You've only got to look at the crowds.

I work at a school that is a very, very good rugby school.

I walk into the classrooms and by the way, they call me sir.

Have I told you that?

They do, but they go, yeah.

But anyway.