Dick Clerkin

Sean Horson has to get a bit of a mention here.

I've watched Sean Horson referee a few games so far, and he's doing a very bloody good job.

He's letting the game go.

We would have been very... I know you picked up a few things there, Pat, but he's creating to those spectacles in terms of he's allowing a bit of physicality.

He's not been overly precious in particular about the new rules, which would have been a problem there,

for a few years and some referees still do and we don't need to mention names but that has come up in the past he lets the game go he allows a bit of physicality and he contributes to the spectacle referees get a right kick in when they deserve it they also need to get the plaudits What about the Munster football final well we know Paul Falloon is no different than Sean Horson he likes to give

Well, listen, Pat, we have to be consistent here, right?

I'm conscious that it's very easy to talk both sides of our mouth.

A couple of years ago, we were berating the fact that essentially senior inter-county players weren't playing in the under-20s and that sort of

you know, reduced the significance.

And it did.

So the under-20 competition is a better competition now by having the inter-county players.

So you have to sort of say, when do you play it?

And when do you play it, Pat?

Because you can't be after the championship.

You can't be after the championship because... I tell you when you play it.

I tell you when you play it.

No, because that was the solution.

Hold on, Pat, I'm going to call you.

No, no.