Don Van Natta Jr.

And it was said actually around that time, Pablo, come to think about 2015, 2016, it was after the Ray Rice autumn.

And it was said actually around that time, Pablo, come to think about 2015, 2016, it was after the Ray Rice autumn.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Absolutely. It's bread and circuses. It's even the ugly side of the game. Concussions. You know, what happened at Tua. Yeah. Think of the conversation. This season. Right. That weirdly, though, still enhances the appeal. It is the test of this sort of macro question of all of these scandals didn't stop the juggernaut of the NFL. And will this? Probably not.

Absolutely. It's bread and circuses. It's even the ugly side of the game. Concussions. You know, what happened at Tua. Yeah. Think of the conversation. This season. Right. That weirdly, though, still enhances the appeal. It is the test of this sort of macro question of all of these scandals didn't stop the juggernaut of the NFL. And will this? Probably not.

Absolutely. It's bread and circuses. It's even the ugly side of the game. Concussions. You know, what happened at Tua. Yeah. Think of the conversation. This season. Right. That weirdly, though, still enhances the appeal. It is the test of this sort of macro question of all of these scandals didn't stop the juggernaut of the NFL. And will this? Probably not.

These guys are not, and I say guys because most of the owners are men, are not smart enough to pull off massive conspiracies. I mean, there's just a lot of groupthink when it comes down to it. I mean, look, the National Football League, they call themselves the membership, right? The 32 owners. They're the membership.

These guys are not, and I say guys because most of the owners are men, are not smart enough to pull off massive conspiracies. I mean, there's just a lot of groupthink when it comes down to it. I mean, look, the National Football League, they call themselves the membership, right? The 32 owners. They're the membership.

These guys are not, and I say guys because most of the owners are men, are not smart enough to pull off massive conspiracies. I mean, there's just a lot of groupthink when it comes down to it. I mean, look, the National Football League, they call themselves the membership, right? The 32 owners. They're the membership.

It is the hardest and arguably the most gilded club in America. Yes. Hardest to get into.

It is the hardest and arguably the most gilded club in America. Yes. Hardest to get into.

It is the hardest and arguably the most gilded club in America. Yes. Hardest to get into.

Absolutely. No doubt about it. However, at its essence, it's really just a trade association of 31 owners and the Green Bay Packers who— Whose ownership is, yes, more democratically oriented. That's exactly—that's right.

Absolutely. No doubt about it. However, at its essence, it's really just a trade association of 31 owners and the Green Bay Packers who— Whose ownership is, yes, more democratically oriented. That's exactly—that's right.

Absolutely. No doubt about it. However, at its essence, it's really just a trade association of 31 owners and the Green Bay Packers who— Whose ownership is, yes, more democratically oriented. That's exactly—that's right.

But really, they're— They have massive egos, most of these people. They don't like each other.

But really, they're— They have massive egos, most of these people. They don't like each other.

But really, they're— They have massive egos, most of these people. They don't like each other.