Donald J. Trump
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I don't think people in the United States understand whether it's clans or sheiks or different tribes.
In the Middle East, they don't really think of nation states, as you told us last night.
Tell me about that, about the clans and the sheiks and who really runs things over there.
Well, the concept of nation states is a Christian solution to Christian problems.
And the idea of nationalism, you're French, you're English, you're American, they don't have those ideas in the Muslim world.
Loyalty can only be to God, to Allah.
So they're not really loyal to Jordan or Egypt or the Saudi kings.
So political loyalty is something that only exists in the Muslim world to religion and not to a nation state.
And that's a fundamental concept that Western countries don't understand when they try to negotiate these different treaties.
I think what's going to be very interesting is to see if Bibi's relationship and influence with Trump will continue.
He's known him for many years.
Trump was at his wedding to Melania.
I mean, Bibi was at Trump's wedding.
So they've known each other for so many years.
And then you have this kind of business group of the Gulf Arabs that are offering trillions of dollars of investment.
that are also influencing Trump.
So I'm seeing that there's kind of an influence struggle as to who will be able to sway Trump in their favor that's taking place right now.
And I'm sure Bibi is trying hard to make sure that Trump understands his position and why Hamas has to be disarmed.
But it sounds to me very clearly that Trump does not want the war to continue and Hamas may take advantage of that.
Yeah, to him the war is over.