Donald J. Trump

Maybe it was held up.

I think there were shortages.

I think there were problems, but I don't think it was starvation on the level of hysteria that they were trying to create.

So I just – I think that Trump is being pulled.

But, Joe, one of the things – hang on.

One other thing about the 3,000 years, and maybe that's not the right term, but I think he's saying it's even –

a lot of this in the region transcends even religion.

It transcends Islam.

It transcends, I mean, this is a cockpit of basically intense fighting for thousands of years, right?

And ancient vendettas that people in the West, I mean, you keep mentioning some of this very important.

You talk about the clans right now in Gaza.

I know in many of the people, and I think Matt Faraci would know this, when we talk to people about, on the Israeli side, about

Judea Samara, they say, hey, the sheiks, there's 12 sheiks over there that want to throw in with the Israelis because they can't stand the Palestinian Authority.

I don't think people in the United States understand whether it's clans or sheiks or different tribes.

In the Middle East, they don't really think of nation states, as you told us last night.

Tell me about that, about the clans and the sheiks and who really runs things over there.

Well, the concept of nation states is a Christian solution to Christian problems.

And the idea of nationalism, you're French, you're English, you're American, they don't have those ideas in the Muslim world.

Loyalty can only be to God, to Allah.

So they're not really loyal to Jordan or Egypt or the Saudi kings.