Donncha O'Callaghan

I think just top four and play it out is the way to go.

Like in our head, the race for eight was all nice and that matters for Europe.

But I think...

if you're to be elite in terms of a competition, getting to kind of four is enough.

So a little bit with that.

But yeah, like you're saying that the coaches are finding that kind of a little bit touchy, but that's what happens when you don't get results.

And I actually think people are nearly, you know what I mean?

I'd love if they push back, you know what I mean?

And kind of,

Like the spat with Leo and Jack, they kind of get under the hood a little bit.

He says he doesn't feel valued.

From where?

The media, the public?

Where's he not feeling the love?

Because he was adored, man.

Those players in Munster would have walked on glass for that, man.

And maybe that's what the disconnect is.

Maybe his role, like he used to run on with the water in Munster.

You know what I mean?

And maybe we're trying to get him to... But like, Tommy, there's no doubt.