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The Offload

URC Semi Finals, Coaches vs The Media, Player Social & More | The Offload EP87

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.135 Tommy Bowe

Hello, welcome along to another episode of The Offloads.

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3.556 - 14.391 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yes, lots coming up on the pod today. We are looking back at last week's quarterfinals. Let's be honest, a little bit underwhelming, but we're previewing the Glasgow Bulls game and the Leinster Stormers.

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14.852 - 16.694 Tommy Bowe

We, of course, go into silly season.

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Chapter 2: What were the highlights from last week's URC quarterfinals?

16.734 - 25.707 Tommy Bowe

Doneca's all over the papers, blogging God knows what, along with Conway. Conway's turned into Done Deal. We're going to go through the lads' Instagram pages and everything else.

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Chapter 3: How are the Glasgow Bulls and Leinster Stormers expected to perform?

26.228 - 41.975 Tommy Bowe

Expect a laugh. And we're off. Doneca, how are you?

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42.456 - 52.295 Donncha O'Callaghan

I'm great. How are you? Yeah. Looking forward to this. It feels like a while since we caught up this way. If you know what I mean. The way we normally do it. Normally I've been on the road at the moment.

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52.315 - 57.105 Tommy Bowe

You have been up the walls, man. It's great. I'm sure it's nice to be back home for a bit.

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57.322 - 76.343 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yeah, yeah, but you know better than anyone. And as well, when you're around someone like you, you know that you don't whinge about working hard. You know what I mean? Like it's just the buy-in for just what you have to do and that kind of game that we're trying to get into while you're in. So yeah, the last few weeks have been busy, but it makes you appreciate stuff.

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76.763 - 88.657 Donncha O'Callaghan

But it's a nice time of the year, isn't it? Like school wrapping up and no homework around the place. There's a bit of a buzz around it. You know what I mean? I know. You want grey weather and stuff, but once we have the brightness, man, I'm away.

89.438 - 100.292 Tommy Bowe

Yeah, well, at least it's warm. The craziest stuff is this rain. It just comes in out of nowhere. You get drenched and then within like 15 seconds, it's bright and dry and you're bursting again.

100.332 - 104.858 Donncha O'Callaghan

And the washing's ruined. That's what happened. It's raining. The washing!

105.499 - 109.464 Tommy Bowe

Who leaves you in charge of the washing, honestly?

109.525 - 112.168 Donncha O'Callaghan

Jenny's gone up to collect them from school, so I had to leg it.

Chapter 4: What is the significance of Fergus Slattery's legacy in rugby?

367.261 - 384.801 Tommy Bowe

Listen, we will talk with the matches. Last weekend, I suppose we should touch on Munster first of all, away from home against the Bulls. One that you were obviously watching closely. One didn't start well for them, but got themselves right back into it. I thought, game on here. And then just to concede two tries just before halftime was...

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384.781 - 403.127 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yeah, you've nailed it. That kind of one word, one score game and off the kickoff to make a big poach kind of changed the game, isn't it? It's mad. I remember we used to do a thing that we would only celebrate a score after we exited the kickoff, if you know what I mean. It just helped with the mentality of...

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403.36 - 432.507 Donncha O'Callaghan

don't switch off don't switch off the kickoff is you know what I mean because you know after you've conceded a try that's the first place to get back into the game so and that was just a bit of a soft entry look you don't want to be overly hard on the players we played at altitude it is horrendous but for me I expected a little bit more I know there's a massive amount of injuries in terms of their you know what I mean and that team to be fair are dealing with an awful lot but I don't want to go too easy on the players I

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432.487 - 453.551 Donncha O'Callaghan

I expected more for a quarterfinal. I expected them to go down kicking, screaming, and it just whimpered out, which isn't a great way to be. I know a lot of people were probably relieved that the season's over because it's been a tough one. But overall, I think when you get to kind of quarterfinals, you have to find something more than Munster had there.

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453.771 - 472.411 Donncha O'Callaghan

And like we've seen Munster do that before, go on the road with that team under Graham Rountree and Peter O'Manning go over there and bop. I've always said it here, Tommy, I can live with results. I just didn't see probably a reflection of want as much as you'd like it. And I hate saying that about the lads, but, you know.

472.491 - 492.451 Tommy Bowe

I have to, like, it's a tough gig. I mean, people can just think, oh yeah, you just nip down to Pretoria. The flight, you know, they played the weekend before to then find out, right, we're going to have to go and play against the Bulls. All of a sudden you have to organise flights here. The flights that were probably the most easiest to get on are already fully booked.

492.491 - 511.351 Tommy Bowe

They're having to probably fly via London or different areas in Europe, split up as a group, get down to Johannesburg, Johannesburg and up to Pretoria. Like, it's a mission to do, do you know what I mean? Plus to go and play in high altitude. But then again, like you think, well, you think though last year against, wasn't it Sharks? Was that the game?

511.431 - 534.28 Tommy Bowe

Was that last year where it went down to kick off the kicks at the end of the game? So... you know that when it gets to quarter finals you're kind of expecting it to be tight but 45-14 you know it was tight in the end yeah agreed and look Tommy I don't want to take because they're all valid everything you mentioned and then that's before we even talk about stuff going on off the pitch

534.26 - 552.645 Donncha O'Callaghan

Every excuse is there if you want, and I'm going to be really harsh on the players, if you want to hide behind them. Like I remember brilliant leaders I would have had, like Anthony Foley would have spoke about them, would have spoke about the travel, would have spoke about the different things and said, we're not using them. You know what I mean? They're there for the week. You know what I mean?

Chapter 5: What went wrong for Munster in their recent match?

1379.42 - 1386.028 Tommy Bowe

Did you see? Did you see? Did you see Andrew Conway's Instagram post?

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1386.048 - 1406.377 Donncha O'Callaghan

Brilliant. Brilliant. That was the best one. Can we just explain to someone? Andrew Conway, goose to us, one of the greatest players we've ever had. Incredible fun. But like normally, is it right to say Instagram is for one kind of like little posts of your life and what's going on? And then, of course, there is a few potential earners and different things.

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1408.079 - 1429.353 Donncha O'Callaghan

Andrew Conway has basically turned it into done deal or we buy any car. Yeah. He threw up, for sale, 9,950. DM me if you're interested and know anyone that would be interested in this deal. And a photo of his car, which is a Range Rover 171. It's automatic. It's got 90,000 miles.

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1429.834 - 1433.898 Tommy Bowe

It's ivory. You're not done deals. You don't need to give me... Hold on.

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1434.138 - 1441.986 Donncha O'Callaghan

No, no. Relax, relax. I'm not overselling it for Conway. Because then, Tommy, he threw up this. You'll get a giggle out of it. It's sold.

1443.535 - 1453.267 Tommy Bowe

Conway is basically selling cars. Oh, fair play to you. I loved it. It's because it's Andrew Conway 5X flow now.

1453.527 - 1454.529 Unknown

Yes, that's right.

1454.549 - 1467.585 Tommy Bowe

He goes into business and makes it flow. But I love that. It's not even if you know anybody who wants a deal. It's who likes fantastic deals. Andrew Conway Motors is coming soon.

1468.747 - 1474.877 Donncha O'Callaghan

Oh, brilliant. We have to get him on, man. He is the greatest crack to have in the dressing room of all time. What a talent, but also great fun.

Chapter 6: How do injuries impact team performance in high-stakes games?

1538.143 - 1539.445 Donncha O'Callaghan

Thank God someone said it.

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1539.705 - 1547.92 Tommy Bowe

So what, Carl has got that family and lifestyle market fairly, he thought he had it well and truly wrapped up, didn't he?

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1547.94 - 1557.917 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yeah, and there he goes. There's honestly, Joanne and Moir stepping in on his territory a little bit. Good on Carl Mullins, seeing the funny side of him looking down the crack.

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1558.083 - 1572.605 Tommy Bowe

To be fair, Joanne's really throwing him under the bus recently, like kind of saying he's going off to get a facial. He didn't even want to do the podcast. She wanted to do the podcast. I mean, to be fair, there's nothing, nothing to hell back in that one.

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1573.165 - 1583.601 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yeah. How would Lucy be about you doing a podcast with her? Jenny spends enough time with me already. Whatever about sitting down for an instant, 20, 30 minutes, you know what I mean?

1583.902 - 1605.049 Tommy Bowe

Lucy spends no time with me for that reason. She doesn't want to talk to me. I mean, it would turn into a complete roast. If I had to do one with her, no, it wouldn't be good. No, no, exactly. The dirty clothes would be hung out to dry on that one. She's like, God only knows what sort of stuff could come out of that.

1605.029 - 1608.456 Donncha O'Callaghan

Brilliant. Joanne, brilliant. Moir, what are you at?

1608.516 - 1618.937 Tommy Bowe

What are you at, Moir? It looks very professional though, to be fair to them. Because they're moving up to Derry, I think, aren't they? So that's hardly a new studio that they've built up there, is it?

1619.002 - 1626.152 Donncha O'Callaghan

I've no idea. But there's people there as well. When Moira cracks one of his gas jokes, everyone starts laughing.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges faced by coaches in the URC?

1843.124 - 1845.788 Donncha O'Callaghan

So, yeah, I'm looking forward to sitting down with Steve's.

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1845.768 - 1855.489 Tommy Bowe

I hope he does the audiobook himself. I listened to the Andy Farrell one. And just when it's not them talking, it just doesn't have as much of a punch, I don't think.

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1855.99 - 1859.678 Donncha O'Callaghan

I agree. Have you listened to Bono's one on audiobook?

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1859.839 - 1860.119 Tommy Bowe

No.

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1860.761 - 1861.863 Donncha O'Callaghan

Amazing.

1861.883 - 1864.148 Tommy Bowe

Is it? Brilliant. Does he read it?

1864.128 - 1886.282 Donncha O'Callaghan

He, it's wrong to say he reads it, man. He performs it. He does all the impressions of people that he's talking about. He does like a brilliant bit. Bill Clinton, Nelson Mandela. He then sings a few of the songs, like the way he would kind of chat them in. He does a scene from Monty Python. You know what I mean? That was in the book at some point. It's just, I thought it was incredible.

1886.663 - 1894.655 Donncha O'Callaghan

The other one I loved was Sinead O'Connor. Just her voice of her story and just... Yeah, that's another brilliant audio one.

1895.236 - 1912.604 Tommy Bowe

Okay. Well, I'm going to give a shout out to Porter. I thought Porter's book, I actually read it and it's the best rugby book I've read in a while. So fair play to him as well. Right. I think that's us giving enough lads a roast and I think that's enough silly season. Any other gigs going on for you?

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