Donncha O'Callaghan

There was never a fear to show weakness.

And I do think for those kind of big meetings, that's what you need.

You need honesty.

You need to give a shit about people and then you're away for slates, aren't you?

So, yeah, incredible.

And just that you say that,

I remember O'Connell, Paul O'Connell was quite incredible in those meetings as well.

So maybe highlight or you'd put your hand up and he'd be quite clear of this hasn't landed, lads.

You know what I mean?

We're not all learning the lesson here.

It's Doneca's fuck up here, 100%.

But that can't be any of us next week.

You know what I mean?

So are we all taking this in, you know what I mean, in the room that...

That's not acceptable.

You know, so just kind of I do think it's important to have those kind of people on the ground that are spotless.

Another thing he used to always do was don't come to me with a problem unless you've thought about the solution.

So I know this might sound nuts, but like we would chat about training weeks.

And of course, when strength and conditioning and rugby are kind of colliding, everyone's looking to get their best bit.

But they mightn't realize when you're in it.