Donncha O'Callaghan

But the night before the game, it was one of these team talks where people just expressed how much it meant to them to be in the room.

And it was unbelievable, Tommy.

It was like...

But it was so emotional and it was so it was so incredible.

But it was actually over the top, if you know what I mean.

Yeah.

And like we were done, we were cooked.

There was too much emotional drive for that night.

And I think we left an awful lot in the hotel.

I know that sounds nuts.

And then learning, learning the balance between that.

you 100 you have to be sharp and ready to go and strength and conditioning have an awful lot to do with making you actually peak for this week because less is more coaches all want to cover their ass they all want to go through four or five more lineouts but all the great snc coaches i've been involved with have been on the pitch going get off and and coaches going bananas with them but then then they're nearly protecting the players so there's a load of

Juggling balls, strength and conditioning are trying to mind you.

Coaches are trying to get information into you.

But I actually think there's the balance.

Having emotional drive on top of smarts is the bit that you have to nail.

And I think that's, I'm going to pick on Leinster because we've seen them the most.

I've seen that in their first half and then it's like they fall off the edge.

You know what I mean?

To kind of bring it on.