Dora Drimalas

I did.

And I understood the internal workings.

I knew who to go to to get things done, to get answers.

But then I could also satisfy the creativity of, oh, OK, now I'm also going to work with a paper company.

I'm also going to work with a technology company.

I'm also going to work with and learn from them, learn about their business.

And maybe as a business owner, that's interesting to me to understand business needs.

So it was the best of both worlds.

I was super ready for a change.

And that's just part of enjoying change.

But everything we learned at Nike, we brought with us.

So Nike was that grad school and being able to

Take those ideas and bring them to a different client and say, hey, have you thought about this?

What if we tell a story this way?

What if we activate the brand this other way?

Right.

And borrow from one client behavior.

and execution and bring it to another.

And that is one of the biggest strengths of being on the outside of being an agency is that you get to cross-pollinate and that's really important.

I think it's happened.