Dora Drimalas

It is thrilling and you get one pass at this, right?

And some people need comfort from rinse and repeat, right?

And that stable world and others that is not satisfying, right?

And for us, I feel like it's not satisfying.

Like I can see the look on the designer's face.

If we've been doing the same thing over and over and over again, it's this I'm dead on the inside face that I get.

And then we have to have a discussion about what are you doing outside of work?

What are you doing right now to keep it fresh?

Because if work isn't giving it to you creatively, then where are you going to find it?

And I say that also because the work in the book is this much of the work that we've done as a studio, right?

And part of including the inspiration and the essays and the thinking in there is that it takes work and you do a lot of really, I say ugly work.

You do a lot of work that you don't want to put in a book to get to this.

We'll be back after a quick break.

Brian and I met in college.

He was a design student and I was a film student.

And I was really close to graduating, met Brian, saw what he was doing, and then realized, oh, you know what?

I think I've been doing this design thing all along too.

I just didn't know that it was design.

And then I thought about film and decided to change my major, but still love film, still want to do something with film.

But changed my major to design.