Dorian Yates

I mean, some meta studies, I think.

But how were those studies carried out?

With whom?

And so on and so on.

I don't know.

I know the Casey Vietor study where he put on 65 pounds of muscle, verified in a month by training like...

Less than about an hour a week, I think.

It was your whole body, super slow sets to failure.

And yes, he was very underweight because he wasn't on anything.

And then he got sick.

So he's underweight.

So he's building back muscle, but he wouldn't build it back without much stimulus.

So 65 pound of muscle, although it was muscle memory, let's say, had been that big before, but he put it on in a month.

And you compare that with Arnold that,

Dieted down to 210, I think, to do this film, Stay Hungry.

Then he went back up to 230 for the Mr. Olympia, but that took him like three months.

So you can compare the two.

So when people talk about these science-based studies and you shouldn't train to failure, it's better to keep reps in reserve.

I don't know which studies they're talking about.

I'm not saying they're not out there, but I'm not familiar with them.