Doug Lesmerises

Don't hold that against him in this way.

Oh, never.

No.

What is it?

October 17th at BYU.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Yeah, so that is the Wisconsin, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford start to the season.

Yeah, okay.

All right, so if you have that in your head at all with Marcus Freeman, it's like you can't go.

You can't bet on 12-0.

There's like one or two undefeated teams every year.

That's it.

I mean, is Notre Dame going to be the one undefeated team or one of the two undefeated teams?

It's so difficult to do, even if your schedule's not that hard, because probably you have a bad Saturday.

Ari, what's your description here?

This, I do think, has, I mean, because Notre Dame and Ohio State have a lot in common, I think, including the fact that Notre Dame's coached by an Ohio State alum.

But, like, I do think it's easy to compare these teams.

And, Landis, I could see us just, like, getting to the point of Notre Dame's in the playoff at 12-0, Ohio State's in the playoff at 10-2 or 9-3.

And, like, who would you rather be?