Dr. Andrew Huff

to give the perception that it's an independent person that's well-trusted within the wildlife community and the scientific community that we know what you're doing and can trust what we're saying.

Because if you look at how the psychological operation was waged, and I'm not just saying the U.S.

government, but multiple entities, the pharmaceutical industry, the big companies that back all these different things, special interests just generally.

Yeah.

You take the guy who's responsible, you put him in charge in the investigation.

You know that he's not going to tie it back to himself, but he's already been branding himself for years and decades as being a person that cares, you know, a crunchy NGO person.

And he has the relationships in wealthy communities on the West Coast and East Coast, the elite.

to convince them that this is, you know, a naturally emerging disease from the wet market.

So, you know, he's already the point man.

He's already sold everyone all this bullshit related to, we're going to go and forecast pandemics.

And really he's the guy who caused one.

Well, at least in my life, and we were discussing this a little bit at breakfast, the more that you see of this trickery, the more that you're exposed.

And they actually talk about this in the psychological research.

Oftentimes, the more aware you become of a phenomenon, the more you see it.

And then once you start seeing it, you can't stop seeing it.

Oh, I know.

And that's how they say, you know, people become conspiracy theorists because they see the conspiracy theorists.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

And that's just... Why is that?