Dr. Andrew Huff

Well, experience.

Exactly.

Experience and living life.

And I do that now.

I'm 43 and you see someone in their 20s or 19.

They have a very idealistic view of the world.

And I used to be one of those people.

Oh, yeah.

Well, internally, and I was working on a startup company and I was distracted by other things.

And, you know, because I was in the UP, this was only via social media or the news.

So I'm pretty detached from it.

What happens is in late 2021...

The operation turns focus towards me because now I'm being, I think, viewed as a threat based on some of the things I put on LinkedIn at the time and other social media posts that I needed to be contained in some way.

And what sort of things were you saying?

So it was really Dr. Malone and I and a few other people who were trying to remain anonymous.

I know who they are.

We're just telling the truth.

So first of all, around the disease, that this is not a naturally emerging pathogen.

I could tell that it was not based on a number of facts, based on how this disease was spreading, the type of agent it was, the coincidence that we had been funding this exact type of work.

And I had the original documents at this laboratory.