Dr. Azadeh Khatibi
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And they keep writing them, so we have to keep fighting them.
And they keep writing them, so we have to keep fighting them.
So the one I'm currently fighting right now was actually written before the first one up. But the first one up was AB 2098, which was a law that was authored by members of the vaccine working group, especially Evan Lowe was the bill's primary author. And so these people kind of wrote a slew of bills during the COVID times in California as a reaction, right? Not thinking, as a reactionary.
So the one I'm currently fighting right now was actually written before the first one up. But the first one up was AB 2098, which was a law that was authored by members of the vaccine working group, especially Evan Lowe was the bill's primary author. And so these people kind of wrote a slew of bills during the COVID times in California as a reaction, right? Not thinking, as a reactionary.
And one response, we have to control doctors was one of them because doctors are spreading misinformation. And so that was what they were saying, and disinformation. They're saying that there's nanobots in the vaccines, and we have to get doctors who say there's nanobots in the vaccines. I was like, what doctor is saying there's nanobots in the vaccine?
And one response, we have to control doctors was one of them because doctors are spreading misinformation. And so that was what they were saying, and disinformation. They're saying that there's nanobots in the vaccines, and we have to get doctors who say there's nanobots in the vaccines. I was like, what doctor is saying there's nanobots in the vaccine?
And don't we have laws, and we have laws on the books already that prevent show that legal action can be taken against doctors by the state if they say disinformation. And so they put out a law, AB 2098 was the bill, and Governor Gavin Newsom ended up signing it. And the law said that any doctor who engages in disinformation or misinformation can get their license taken away or investigated.
And don't we have laws, and we have laws on the books already that prevent show that legal action can be taken against doctors by the state if they say disinformation. And so they put out a law, AB 2098 was the bill, and Governor Gavin Newsom ended up signing it. And the law said that any doctor who engages in disinformation or misinformation can get their license taken away or investigated.
And the disinformation I agree with, disinformation is like a doctor knowingly spreading false information. Unethical, it's wrong, absolutely. But their definition of misinformation was really frightening. They defined misinformation as information that's against consensus, contrary to standard of care. So this word consensus loomed. I'm like, what's the consensus? Is it formal consensus?
And the disinformation I agree with, disinformation is like a doctor knowingly spreading false information. Unethical, it's wrong, absolutely. But their definition of misinformation was really frightening. They defined misinformation as information that's against consensus, contrary to standard of care. So this word consensus loomed. I'm like, what's the consensus? Is it formal consensus?
Is it informal consensus? Who is deciding the consensus? Why, why? Why are we saying that? What's consensus? So everybody's going to chill their speech. The legal term is called chilling your speech. Not speak, which was already happening among physicians. So I was like, oh my gosh, this is just going to come back. compound the issue. And we saw that it did compound the issue.
Is it informal consensus? Who is deciding the consensus? Why, why? Why are we saying that? What's consensus? So everybody's going to chill their speech. The legal term is called chilling your speech. Not speak, which was already happening among physicians. So I was like, oh my gosh, this is just going to come back. compound the issue. And we saw that it did compound the issue.
And so as I spoke out against it, I met with my representative, my state senator, Sidney Kamlager's office, who, by the way, was the author of the second bill or the second law that I'm fighting now. She's now gone on to Congress. I don't know what she's doing. I guess she and I have some celestial karma that we're figuring out, or at least I'm trying to figure out on Earth now.
And so as I spoke out against it, I met with my representative, my state senator, Sidney Kamlager's office, who, by the way, was the author of the second bill or the second law that I'm fighting now. She's now gone on to Congress. I don't know what she's doing. I guess she and I have some celestial karma that we're figuring out, or at least I'm trying to figure out on Earth now.
But she backed that law. I met with her office. I was like, you cannot push AB 2098 that makes all doctors fear to say anything because they're afraid to be outside of consensus. This doesn't make sense. It's unethical. It's wrong. It's a free speech violation. She voted for it anyway. So many Democrats in the state legislature voted for it anyway. Governor Gavin Newsom signed it.
But she backed that law. I met with her office. I was like, you cannot push AB 2098 that makes all doctors fear to say anything because they're afraid to be outside of consensus. This doesn't make sense. It's unethical. It's wrong. It's a free speech violation. She voted for it anyway. So many Democrats in the state legislature voted for it anyway. Governor Gavin Newsom signed it.
And as I'm speaking out then, I got the opportunity to be a part of that lawsuit, along with some great doctors, Ram Dursetti, Aaron Cariotti, Pete Mazalowski, Tracy Beth Hogue, and supported by the wonderful people at the New Civil Liberties Alliance.
And as I'm speaking out then, I got the opportunity to be a part of that lawsuit, along with some great doctors, Ram Dursetti, Aaron Cariotti, Pete Mazalowski, Tracy Beth Hogue, and supported by the wonderful people at the New Civil Liberties Alliance.
The ACLU, who, by the way, during COVID, was pushing for vaccine mandates and saying that vaccine mandates were a wonderful thing, was nowhere to be found in this free speech violation. Of course. Wonderful.
The ACLU, who, by the way, during COVID, was pushing for vaccine mandates and saying that vaccine mandates were a wonderful thing, was nowhere to be found in this free speech violation. Of course. Wonderful.