Dr. Cali Estes
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It's insanity how, how, how they can just pull stop.
So that's hard.
And then they have the temper tantrums.
So, you know, the, the meltdowns, um, and it's, it's kind of like,
a lot of people, a lot of clinicians don't want to deal with that.
So when the person's screaming and yelling and calling you every name in the book, a lot of counselors and therapists go, okay, that's not appropriate.
I'm not going to deal with it.
I stand there and I'm like, are you done?
Because when you're done, I can get started and they're not ready for that.
So I come at it from a tougher, like a tough love.
And they're not used to that.
They're used to yes people.
And I'm the no person.
I come in and I'm going to say no.
And the first person usually that says no.
And they kind of, I don't know.
They do eventually in the beginning, they want to destroy it.
And I just don't know.
We're going to, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that.