Dr. Cali Estes

So it's usually that.

With my executives, it's a big something on the line.

A big deal fell through and they lost multimillion dollars and they're going, okay, what's happening?

Or a death in the family occurred or the wife said, I'm leaving.

If you don't do X, I'm out.

And that's a big part of what they do with their public persona.

They have to get sober.

Celebrities are worse.

Are they?

Here's why.

Okay.

Celebrities have a team of yes people around them at all times that want to be in their circle for the fame.

So they literally say, I want green M&Ms at 3 a.m.

And somebody will get out of bed, go get them a bag of M&Ms, and then sit there and separate M&Ms and make sure they have a pile of green M&Ms for 3.15.

Just to get the, attaboy, you can hang out with me the next day.

So that's harder.

with athletes, there's people who want their money.

They're after their money.

So, you know, invest in this or invest in that, or give me this or give me that you can shut that down quick.

But with celebrities, there's always somebody standing by and there's always a drug connection and they can get it so fast, so quick.