Dr. Caroline Fleck
speaker
364 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
Dr. Caroline Fleck’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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You don't care. You don't care. You think this is fun. You think this is fun. Just really kind of... Wow.
It is. And in my heart, I'm feeling responsible for... For what's going on.
And then like, I need to get this under control. So it's that type of, those types of situations. And if these skills work in those situations... Their potential when the stakes are much lower and folks are much more rational is significantly bigger.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yes. I mean, it's much easier.
There's a lot of different things that go into that. At this, at that point, what I would start doing genuinely is actually to copy back. Okay. So let me get this right. I want to make sure I've got this. You emailed me yesterday. From your perspective, this should have been a signal to me that you were in crisis. Okay. I, okay. And I need to be careful not to say that wasn't in your email.
Just like, so, so right now I got it. You were feeling like I totally betrayed you. Like I'm intentionally trying to hurt you. Oh my gosh. Okay. I get, I see, I see, I see. Oh, I'm so sorry. You feel that way. Oh my gosh. That is no, no, no, no. That is not what happened. Not from my, can I share my perspective?
It's okay if you don't want me to, cause that could sound offensive, but I really, I, I, I'm, I, it hurts my heart that there was this miscommunication.
Yeah, a little.
No, because I am seeing like that's their world. That's their perspective. I do see that. I'm not saying anything I don't believe. Now, here's the thing. It's acceptance and change, not acceptance or change. They are two sides of the same coin. So I can validate. And then once there's once I see that that has resonated, I switch gears. OK, but let's look at this for a second.
If you keep responding to people in this way when they miss a message from you, I'm worried you're going to start burning people out. Because the other thing I felt just now was attacked and scared and not in a good way. All right.
Is there anything we could have done, do you think, that could have brought down the intensity just a little bit so you could give me that message but not, you know, make me want to hide under the couch?
So that's it. That's that combination. You see how I'm going from validation to change.
Right.
Yeah. And the second is copying, which is that mimicry that I do.
That's right. So it's a two-parter. It's that little game that you're playing in the head, and then it's nonverbals. All right. And what was the first thing to go out the window once we were in lockdown from COVID?
Proximity.
I mean, all of it, I guess. Gestures get really awkward. Everything.
Everything.
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