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Dr. Caroline Fleck

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The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Yeah, that's my job.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Yeah, that's my job.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Yes. And that has been many of the clients I work with. In working with folks who have BPD, the sad truth about that condition is that it is disproportionately higher in women and women with a history of sexual trauma. Because what could be more validating than BPD? sexual trauma, especially as a child. The people who are supposed to protect you are hurting you. Okay? It's hard to understand.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Yes. And that has been many of the clients I work with. In working with folks who have BPD, the sad truth about that condition is that it is disproportionately higher in women and women with a history of sexual trauma. Because what could be more validating than BPD? sexual trauma, especially as a child. The people who are supposed to protect you are hurting you. Okay? It's hard to understand.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Yes. And that has been many of the clients I work with. In working with folks who have BPD, the sad truth about that condition is that it is disproportionately higher in women and women with a history of sexual trauma. Because what could be more validating than BPD? sexual trauma, especially as a child. The people who are supposed to protect you are hurting you. Okay? It's hard to understand.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

This doesn't feel right, but this is someone I should trust. This person knows what's right, and they're doing this. But this doesn't feel right. And then there's the confusing thing a lot of times, which people don't talk about often, which is that sometimes there's some component of pleasure involved for the child. Not always, but sometimes.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

This doesn't feel right, but this is someone I should trust. This person knows what's right, and they're doing this. But this doesn't feel right. And then there's the confusing thing a lot of times, which people don't talk about often, which is that sometimes there's some component of pleasure involved for the child. Not always, but sometimes.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

This doesn't feel right, but this is someone I should trust. This person knows what's right, and they're doing this. But this doesn't feel right. And then there's the confusing thing a lot of times, which people don't talk about often, which is that sometimes there's some component of pleasure involved for the child. Not always, but sometimes.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

And that's confusing as hell because then it really feeds this narrative of I brought this on. I deserve this, which is also kind of reinforced oftentimes by the perpetrator. And you can just see this invalidating storm of like what's up and what's down. All I can conclude is that I'm bad. I'm wrong.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

And that's confusing as hell because then it really feeds this narrative of I brought this on. I deserve this, which is also kind of reinforced oftentimes by the perpetrator. And you can just see this invalidating storm of like what's up and what's down. All I can conclude is that I'm bad. I'm wrong.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

And that's confusing as hell because then it really feeds this narrative of I brought this on. I deserve this, which is also kind of reinforced oftentimes by the perpetrator. And you can just see this invalidating storm of like what's up and what's down. All I can conclude is that I'm bad. I'm wrong.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Again, that is my job. Yes. It is my job to first come in. And because then what folks may be doing as adults, not always, but folks who have developed problems, is that they're acting out in ways as adults that are really offensive, right? And make me say some version, like they're coming in and saying, oh, you went to this school, not that school. And I'm like, that's so gross, right?

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Again, that is my job. Yes. It is my job to first come in. And because then what folks may be doing as adults, not always, but folks who have developed problems, is that they're acting out in ways as adults that are really offensive, right? And make me say some version, like they're coming in and saying, oh, you went to this school, not that school. And I'm like, that's so gross, right?

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

Again, that is my job. Yes. It is my job to first come in. And because then what folks may be doing as adults, not always, but folks who have developed problems, is that they're acting out in ways as adults that are really offensive, right? And make me say some version, like they're coming in and saying, oh, you went to this school, not that school. And I'm like, that's so gross, right?

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

So they're doing things that attract a lot of negative attention. And so what I have to do is pull back and look at what's valid in their experiences. And when you do that, for someone who's been chronically invalidated, the reaction is like, first it's disarming, then it is...

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

So they're doing things that attract a lot of negative attention. And so what I have to do is pull back and look at what's valid in their experiences. And when you do that, for someone who's been chronically invalidated, the reaction is like, first it's disarming, then it is...

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

So they're doing things that attract a lot of negative attention. And so what I have to do is pull back and look at what's valid in their experiences. And when you do that, for someone who's been chronically invalidated, the reaction is like, first it's disarming, then it is...

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

There's like an immediate transformation that doesn't change everything, not by any means, but there's this sense of like, holy shit, wait a minute, what I've been feeling is okay, is right? Like I should have been feeling that? I mean, they kind of knew it all the time, but to have somebody else come in and say, no, that makes perfect sense.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

There's like an immediate transformation that doesn't change everything, not by any means, but there's this sense of like, holy shit, wait a minute, what I've been feeling is okay, is right? Like I should have been feeling that? I mean, they kind of knew it all the time, but to have somebody else come in and say, no, that makes perfect sense.

The Genius Life
487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD

There's like an immediate transformation that doesn't change everything, not by any means, but there's this sense of like, holy shit, wait a minute, what I've been feeling is okay, is right? Like I should have been feeling that? I mean, they kind of knew it all the time, but to have somebody else come in and say, no, that makes perfect sense.