Dr. Chloe Carmichael

Yes, yes.

Rob and I were talking about that and I was saying I totally agree about the stable sense of self thing because I feel like Nick or that person's development might have been kind of frozen in time when he was

you know, banned from the airwaves at the age of 18.

And the age of 18 is a time just developmentally when we're normally, the sense of identity is fluid.

And so, you know, people kind of find themselves and their personalities on camera when you, you know, are in the media, especially when part of what you're bringing to the table is your sense of thought.

Rob, I think you're really onto something.

He doesn't seem to have a stable sense of self.

And it might be like an arrested development thing from when he was banned 10 years ago.

It's like he's frozen in time.

Yeah, I mean, I think that it's really hard to stay integrated in your personality when, you know, as you and Rob were discussing earlier, we have to mask and self-censor so many parts of ourselves.

And, you know, Dr. Drew, you were referencing this earlier as well.

I think that we can almost start to dissociate from parts of ourselves.

If we feel like we have to mask them to enough people, like you said, it was almost like a hypnosis.

And so at the same time that we've seen this incredible spike in cancel culture, we've also seen, and I discussed this in my book, a quadruple in the Google searches for the word authenticity.

So it's almost like a borderline split where on one level, people are craving authenticity.

And then on the other level, they're terrified of being authentic.

And I feel like it's almost like the perfect storm for Mr. NF, right?

He's kind of almost like a borderline himself where he'll take this one little bit of truth.

Like it's not that everything he says is completely nuts.

And so he'll take this one little bit of truth and then kind of latch onto it and pull this thread and get you to almost kind of follow what he's saying and say, well, you know what?