Dr. Christof (Christoph) Koch

What's going to help?

And adding AI, of course, just accelerates everything, right?

We're going through this acceleranda, this tremendous acceleranda, right, where AI is getting better literally every day, right?

I'm sure you use it just as much as I do.

It's very powerful.

It's getting ever more powerful, right?

You throw that into the mix, well, that's probably with unemployment, massive change, right?

Most people don't like change, right?

But if it's all intellectual, it's like what you said, when you really experience what it is to have black skin, I mean, not fully, but to experience something of what is it like to walk around being black, right?

You had to visit, you told me yourself, right, early on that you said, well, you can't get that from reading.

You really have to experience it.

So people have to have this moment, this come to Jesus moment where they say, okay, shit, we can't go on like this anymore.

We have to change our way of doing this.

I agree.

And with social media, you know, all it takes is a small fraction of people that reignite this, right?

That post something nasty and then someone else posts it and then they all pile on.

The Chinese AI or the OpenAI or Cloud or Anthropic or Grog or any of the other ones being developed?

Once we've agreed on which...

What is the function we're trying to maximize?

I mean, do you really believe that it's going to be – because we haven't agreed, of course, on the optimal framework, right?