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Huberman Lab

How to Expand Your Consciousness | Dr. Christof Koch

15 Sep 2025

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0.031 - 17.48 Andrew Huberman

Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. My guest today is Dr. Christoph Koch.

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Dr. Christoph Koch is a neuroscientist, an investigator at the Allen Institute for Brain Science and a chief scientist at the Tiny Blue Dot Foundation. He is considered one of the great pioneers and luminaries of modern neuroscience.

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30.659 - 50.203 Andrew Huberman

Christoph's research has spanned how we perceive the world around us, how different states of mind arise and shape our experience of life, and most notably, consciousness. I joined the field of neuroscience way back in the 1990s, and even way back then, Christoph's name and his work was considered seminal for our understanding of brain and human experience.

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And over the subsequent 30 years, he has continued to do incredible groundbreaking work.

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Today we discuss consciousness, what it is literally at the level of quantifiable brain mechanisms and how understanding consciousness at that level can help you experience life more richly and allow you to place deeper meaning on everything from a typical morning, to grief and loss, to your greatest and most awe-inspiring moments.

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Christoph also explains how our individual experiences and memories place us each into a unique, what he calls perception box, which is what shapes your outlook on life, and in many cases, your quality of life, including your mental and physical health. And he explains how you can change your perception box through what we call neuroplasticity, which is the modification of brain circuits.

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We also discuss what flow states, psychedelics such as DMT and other psychedelics, meditation, sleep, and dreaming tell you about how your mind works and the nature of consciousness. And we don't just discuss consciousness at the level of individuals, we discuss the collective consciousness of humankind.

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So if you're somebody that's interested in the brain and mind, what it means to be human, how to evolve and improve your mind, today's discussion will address all of that. Oh, and we also discuss dogs, cats, Jennifer Aniston, and the meaning of life. So get ready.

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This is a very special episode of the Huberman Lab podcast that I'm certain by time it finishes, we'll have you thinking differently about your life. And... dare I say, with a bit more optimism. Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford.

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