Dr. David Burns

And certainly a coach is free to use the tools we've developed, testing people at the start and end of every session, using the evaluation of therapies session scale to see what your empathy score is, see if you're getting changes in the patient's negative feelings. I think the whole field of mental health overall needs a radical change.

And certainly a coach is free to use the tools we've developed, testing people at the start and end of every session, using the evaluation of therapies session scale to see what your empathy score is, see if you're getting changes in the patient's negative feelings. I think the whole field of mental health overall needs a radical change.

change and getting away from these semi-religious cults where you've got your Adlerians and your ACT people and your EMDR, eye-jiggling people. Sorry if that insulted someone, but it was intentionally passive-aggressive. You're eye tapping people. Let's see, where do I tap? Oh, is it right here on my right eyebrow and my OCD will disappear?

change and getting away from these semi-religious cults where you've got your Adlerians and your ACT people and your EMDR, eye-jiggling people. Sorry if that insulted someone, but it was intentionally passive-aggressive. You're eye tapping people. Let's see, where do I tap? Oh, is it right here on my right eyebrow and my OCD will disappear?

Oh, I'm cured.

Oh, I'm cured.

And, you know, there's all this junk going on right now. And I think the whole field needs, I don't know quite how it's going to happen, but I think it does have to happen. And we've got plenty of People who want to charge a lot, well, certainly there are no psychologists or psychiatrists like that, Rhonda, right?

And, you know, there's all this junk going on right now. And I think the whole field needs, I don't know quite how it's going to happen, but I think it does have to happen. And we've got plenty of People who want to charge a lot, well, certainly there are no psychologists or psychiatrists like that, Rhonda, right?

There are a lot of people that charge a lot of money, especially in the Bay Area, where there are a lot of high-income humans living. I'm just not 100%. understanding what the difference is between coaching and therapists. Because Angela, you've discussed, and David has said too, you've got through a lot of training. I've seen you at trainings and you're putting on trainings.

There are a lot of people that charge a lot of money, especially in the Bay Area, where there are a lot of high-income humans living. I'm just not 100%. understanding what the difference is between coaching and therapists. Because Angela, you've discussed, and David has said too, you've got through a lot of training. I've seen you at trainings and you're putting on trainings.

I don't understand the difference in why you're calling yourself a coach and why you're not calling yourself a therapist. Because clearly You've been well-trained as a Team CBT therapist, and you have provided therapy to people. So to me, you're a therapist. I don't know why I would even call you a coach.

I don't understand the difference in why you're calling yourself a coach and why you're not calling yourself a therapist. Because clearly You've been well-trained as a Team CBT therapist, and you have provided therapy to people. So to me, you're a therapist. I don't know why I would even call you a coach.

A therapist and a damn good one and a teacher and a damn good one. Let's get on to the positives of this show. We didn't get you folks on here to rake you with the cold. Well, I mean, that is positive. To sing your... sing your praises and find out the cool things that you're doing and how other people can hook up and learn from you.

A therapist and a damn good one and a teacher and a damn good one. Let's get on to the positives of this show. We didn't get you folks on here to rake you with the cold. Well, I mean, that is positive. To sing your... sing your praises and find out the cool things that you're doing and how other people can hook up and learn from you.

Tell me more. I like you.

Tell me more. I like you.

Coaching is regulated?

Coaching is regulated?

Yeah. And we have to get to Lorna, who I think is on the program to be more than a decorative object. And so, but I just wanted to say, I think there's some, a couple of legal differences. I think that you have to be a licensed mental health professional to do diagnosis and And maybe some can and others cannot.

Yeah. And we have to get to Lorna, who I think is on the program to be more than a decorative object. And so, but I just wanted to say, I think there's some, a couple of legal differences. I think that you have to be a licensed mental health professional to do diagnosis and And maybe some can and others cannot.