Dr. David Burns

And I would say that Heather and Brandon are both shrinks, MDs, psychiatrists, like Matt, who's with us today, and David. So this is like super shrink day. But one thing about Brandon and Heather is that they're really not only fantastic teachers and therapists of the highest order of magnitude, but their heart is in the place of... giving help to people who were suffering.

And I would say that Heather and Brandon are both shrinks, MDs, psychiatrists, like Matt, who's with us today, and David. So this is like super shrink day. But one thing about Brandon and Heather is that they're really not only fantastic teachers and therapists of the highest order of magnitude, but their heart is in the place of... giving help to people who were suffering.

And it's filled with treasures of experiences to help you change the way you feel and discover greater self-esteem, which is the topic, one of the topics in our podcast today. So I think I had interrupted you, Heather. So back to you.

And it's filled with treasures of experiences to help you change the way you feel and discover greater self-esteem, which is the topic, one of the topics in our podcast today. So I think I had interrupted you, Heather. So back to you.

Where do they go to sign up and find out about it?

Where do they go to sign up and find out about it?

But just because I might be not reading the show notes or something, it's feelinggreattherapycenter.com. And it's that one word, feelinggreattherapycenter.com forward slash app.

But just because I might be not reading the show notes or something, it's feelinggreattherapycenter.com. And it's that one word, feelinggreattherapycenter.com forward slash app.

Yeah, and then you'll find all the info, and you can sign up and something very important that Rhonda will now say.

Yeah, and then you'll find all the info, and you can sign up and something very important that Rhonda will now say.

So you're making Highland Hospital my favorite hospital in the United States. A leader, once again. I spent two years, first year of my internship and then my first year of residency there. And I totally loved Highland Hospital. And I think it's so cool that you're doing some work there, Heather. And that's really neat. I can picture it in my mind right now. Nice.

So you're making Highland Hospital my favorite hospital in the United States. A leader, once again. I spent two years, first year of my internship and then my first year of residency there. And I totally loved Highland Hospital. And I think it's so cool that you're doing some work there, Heather. And that's really neat. I can picture it in my mind right now. Nice.

Well, I can tell you a study that we actually did of that a year ago with a couple of hundred people who signed up for a beta test. And we asked them, I was interested in a sophisticated study of empathy to see if people could experience empathy from the AI that we're creating today. Actually, it was before the AI. We just had the classes and lessons and a little kind of a self-help tool.

Well, I can tell you a study that we actually did of that a year ago with a couple of hundred people who signed up for a beta test. And we asked them, I was interested in a sophisticated study of empathy to see if people could experience empathy from the AI that we're creating today. Actually, it was before the AI. We just had the classes and lessons and a little kind of a self-help tool.

But we asked them, how much warmth and understanding do you get from the people in your life, the important people, on a scale of zero to 100, where zero would be none at all and 100 would be the best? And I was very saddened to see that the mean, the average, was only about 45%.

But we asked them, how much warmth and understanding do you get from the people in your life, the important people, on a scale of zero to 100, where zero would be none at all and 100 would be the best? And I was very saddened to see that the mean, the average, was only about 45%.

Meaning that these people who were, you know, going to the app and struggling with a lot of pretty severe mood problems weren't getting a lot of warmth and support from the people in their lives. And then we asked them to predict how much warmth and understanding do you think you'll receive from the app?

Meaning that these people who were, you know, going to the app and struggling with a lot of pretty severe mood problems weren't getting a lot of warmth and support from the people in their lives. And then we asked them to predict how much warmth and understanding do you think you'll receive from the app?

from the Feeling Great app, and they estimated slightly more, like 55 on a 0 to 100 scale rather than 45. So they had some optimism that it would be slightly better But the actual number was 85 on a zero to 100. It was vastly beyond what they expected.

from the Feeling Great app, and they estimated slightly more, like 55 on a 0 to 100 scale rather than 45. So they had some optimism that it would be slightly better But the actual number was 85 on a zero to 100. It was vastly beyond what they expected.