Dr David Starkey

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TRIGGERnometry · The British State Hates its Own People - Dr David Starkey · 20 Jun 2026 podcast

Reform continues to denounce the Tories.

You'd almost think that they weren't actually fighting, that they weren't fighting Andy Burnham, but just fighting each other.

So there is, and there are vicious personal hostilities between those who've gone over to reform, like Robert Jenrick and Suella Braverman, and those who remain within the Conservative Party, and even those like Katie Lamb and Jack Rankin, who I think there isn't a sheet of paper between them, and Jenrick or indeed Farage, as to what they think, profound personal hurt

was done by the way and the timing that Robert went over.

So there's a series of profound, profound bad blood.

On the other hand, if you look in the other direction, Francis, and you look at policy, what is very striking is how close everybody is moving to each other.

And this, I think, is this for me is the really important thing.

When you asked me the question of where do I stand?

My own view is, and it's also very much the view of Jacob Rees-Mogg, that there has to be a reunion of the right and that the only basis for that reunion is policy.

And what I'm struck by is, as you know, we've actually talked about it on this show way back in late 2003 and developed over into the spring of 2008.

of, sorry, 2023.

And when you're a historian, decades, especially when you're my age.

And into the spring of 2024, remember that extraordinary historical episode when Sunak was prime minister.

It seems roughly, I'd say middle, middle, middle, middle ages.

Anyway, I developed this idea that something had gone structurally wrong.

with Britain.

And everything that's happening seems to me to confirm that.

So when I say that they're all moving towards each other in policy, what do I mean?

I think in a rather fragmentary way, and still approaching it in different directions,

All three parties of the right are realizing that they're not dealing with a series of separate problems, which are financial, which are judicial, which are immigration, which are educational, whatever.

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