The British State Hates its Own People - Dr David Starkey

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Dr David Starkey 1:56
something had gone structurally wrong with Britain. We are a state which has turned against its people. All three parties of the right are realizing that they're not dealing with a series of separate problems. You're dealing with a single central issue, which is that the British state has stopped working. We are genuinely, I think, At a moment, I would argue of a national crisis which is comparable only to the First and Second World Wars. There has to be a reunion of the right, and that the only basis for that reunion is policy. But they're fighting each other. And... I despair. If Britain survives, why did you say that? Because I think it is possible that it won't.
Konstantin Kisin 2:51
Dr. David Starkey, welcome back to Trigonometry. A pleasure to be back. Well, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. You've been on the show a gazillion times, typically to talk about your great era of expertise, which is, of course, history. Always fun and fascinating, and we will do more of those episodes in the future, I hope. But today we wanted to talk about the present and what's happening in this country today, and particularly what's happening on the right of British politics. We are recording this shortly before the by-election. We don't quite know what will happen there, although there is some inkling as to what will happen, which is likely a Labour victory. You know all the players involved on all sides of this conversation.
Konstantin Kisin 3:32
You yourself, I think, as a Conservative who's now moved in the reform direction.
Dr David Starkey 3:37
Is that fair? I remain a nominal member of the Conservative Party. I am friendly to everybody on the right.
Konstantin Kisin 3:45
And that being the case, what do you see as happening? You mean in the biolex? No, not in the biolex. More generally. What are the big tectonic plates and how are they moving?
Dr David Starkey 3:58
What I think is striking is they're moving in two completely different directions. If you look at the level of personalities, there is increasingly radical division, typified by the campaigning that's taken place in the Makersfield by-election, in which As it were, it's a war. It's Hobbesian. It's a war of all against all. And that Restore is yapping at the heels of reform. Reform continues to denounce the Tories.

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