Dr. Jenny Taitz

Yeah.

And these people are amazing.

And so I just think to normalize like this is part of the human condition and this doesn't require years of therapy to unpack or transcend.

And then in terms of like the thing that you're saying about changing the way you behave, this is so powerful.

I mean, there's a treatment called behavioral activation that is literally giving someone a schedule of a few things that

might give you pleasure.

Like oftentimes people have to relearn pleasure if they're really depressed.

Like the pleasure that they once experienced might not be the same amount when they initially go back.

Just a few things that might give you pleasure and things that might give you a sense of accomplishment or mastery, something that's difficult, but possible.

And if you do it, you would feel

Like, you know, a challenge was accomplished and then you could keep growing.

Doing a few things each day for pleasure and mastery over several weeks actually works as well as antidepressants for moderate depression.

It's literally behavioral activation is a proven treatment that works as well as medications.

No side effects.

Getting a planner and being willing to do the things and also when you're doing the things be moderate.

Totally present.

Don't be thinking like I'm the worst at home repairs when you're doing your first one or thinking like no one likes me in a social situation or something.

And a lot of people think, like, I'm going to wait till I feel better to do better.

But you could be waiting forever and you could be feeling put yourself in a position where it's so much harder.

And so I think even thinking about today, like, what are some things you would do if you were living the way you wanted to feel and letting the behavior kind of start from the outside in?