Dr. Jesse Mills

What body part is that?

A nose?

Right.

What happened that caused this to go down?

Robble to and fro, they're not to go.

I think the whole thing should have one law that says anything phallic.

That's it.

Anything phallic, that covers it all.

We're done.

Well, I'm sticking to my dickies.

All right.

Okay, so when I was younger, I used to, and I'm pretty sure this is like for most kids, but I used to pick my boogers and eat them.

Jubal's been doing that for the last couple of days, actually.

This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom Podcast.

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