Dr. Jesse Mills

But what if the real work isn't physical at all?

I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.

Our two-part conversation is available now.

Listen to The Mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.

This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom Podcast.

Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken.

But what if the real work isn't physical at all?

I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.

Part of the way through the valley of despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward.

Our two-part conversation is available now.

Listen to The Mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.

Hey, it's Joel.

And Matt.

And this strong action you're talking about, what's the end game?

The end game is to win.

I like winning.

How do you define that in Iran?

Hey there, this is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the Men's Clinic at UCLA Health and host of the Mailroom podcast.

Each January, guys everywhere make the same resolutions.

Get stronger, work harder, fix what's broken.