Dr. Jill Lepore

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

The example I often give is jury service.

One thing that people really believe in is jury duty.

Even if they don't like to do it, they believe in it.

They think it's a good thing to have, that it involves fairness in our criminal justice system.

Objectively, juries often make the wrong decisions, but people believe it's good that we are asked to go to a room with strangers and deliberate over what's true and what's not true.

But imagine that for some reason, jury service was abolished in 1971.

And now in 2026, someone was like, you know what would actually be good would be bringing back jury duty and having like just 12 random people decide like whether or not your kid, you know, is guilty of aggravated assault.

There's no way we would bring it back because kind of trust in one another in civil society is so evaporated.

And that's what's worrying about the decay of people's sense of, well, we live in a representative government.

If like all of us, if the majority of us don't want this thing and we tell our elected officials we don't want this thing, then we're not going to have it.

Right.

And then you repeatedly find out that you are going to have it in spite of what you want.

Right.

Your ability to believe in how the system works has really deteriorated.

I think a lot of that sapping away of our civic strength and our capacity as citizens to deliberate with one another, hear one another out, is because of the incursions of the artificial state.

Yes to both.

I mean, it is self-serving on their part.

And this goes pretty far back.

I mean, you know, OpenAI some years ago had this whole like democratic inputs project where they were going to get democratic inputs on how AI should run.

And this is where Claude's constitution comes from.

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