Dr. Keith Humphreys

And I imagine NIAAA, which is the Alcohol Institute, is doing it also.

I say good, because to me, it's really, I think people...

get a little scared of these drugs and sort of like think, well, you know, you can't use them in medicine.

It's like, well, we use lots of things in medicine that are a lot riskier than this, right?

It's just a question of what is the effect on the patient?

What is the balance?

Electric shock treatment.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you know, Oxycontin, you know, there's all kinds of things, right?

But we figured that out by...

running really good research.

And that's what this area needs.

And I'm glad it's getting the investment.

It's getting a fair amount of philanthropic investment too.

Another important thing is that the people doing the studies are at equipoise.

So, you know, there's been some bad work in this area, you know, over the last 50 years or so because it was people who were...

super enthusiastic to the point that they weren't careful and critical, you know, about what the evidence said and they sort of over claimed what they found because they believed in themselves, maybe because they'd had very positive experiences themselves.

And just like that is not in the long run a good way to do science.

You really want people who design a good study and then let the chips fall where they may and then tell us all and then we can decide, but they should be a spin doctor, that's not good.

Yeah, it will drive also a healthcare system.