Dr. Mehmet Oz

There are more Americans, I believe, providing some of these home-based services that maybe might exist in retail in America.

America.

We've shifted the entire employment economy towards some of these services.

And here's the risk.

If you really want to understand why we have fraud in America, when I give you things that your family used to give you, we are going to have fraud.

So your family used to drive you to the doctor's office.

Your family would take you home after you got home back from the hospital.

Make sure you got well nourished and taken care of.

Your family would carry the groceries up the stairs.

Your family would negotiate your contract with the landlord.

Guess what?

Healthy Human Services does all that for you now.

All you've got to do is ask.

And in some states, it's so easy to do that you end up with significant fraud.

but when the government's paying for it who really has the incentive to make sure that value has been provided in exchange for that money yeah and this is what happened in minnesota where you had a subculture it was probably not you know just the mathematically most of the indictments with are with somalians so the somalian community realized hey my goodness no one's watching

Now, there's an adage, you know, that only the morons get caught in health care fraud because it's so easy to do.

And if you get you still five million dollars in Medicare, Medicaid, you go to jail for 18 months.

I mean, for many people, that's a pretty good deal.

Yeah.

You know, sit in the pen for 18 months.