Dr. Mehmet Oz
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Listen, our biggest allies are state auditors.
I met with the state auditor in Minnesota.
She confided that she'd been trying to get this on the radar.
Just people didn't want to listen.
And I talked to folks within the agency, Health and Human Services.
You were shuttled around.
One woman was actually escorted out of the building for raising the reality that there was fraud.
And this happened over several years and eventually either you leave, if you're ethical,
Or you're quiet because you don't want to get fired.
And you make it such a harsh environment for anybody to just tell the truth.
This reminds me of a friend of mine who is a billionaire now.
Tomas Pedefi.
You probably know him.
Interactive brokers.
Really great guy.
And he said he was growing up in Hungary.
And he said when he was young, he knew that everyone was lying to him.
But that wasn't the big problem.
The big problem is he knew that they knew that he knew that they were lying to him.
Right.