Dr. Michelle Johnston

Here's when I'm at my worst.

What does success look like to you?

Okay, so you have all of that in the beginning, and then you have the conversation of, okay, what's the timeline?

This is going to be your role, my role.

If you have that keystone conversation at the beginning of every new project, then that's the elevator.

That's the scaffolding, right?

And it just takes one – not just – it takes one conversation in the beginning.

I will tell you it's never too late.

I'm embarrassed to tell you I did not have the keystone conversation with my co-author, and he has –

And I took a sabbatical to write this book.

I was so honored.

He's the number one executive coach in the world, number one global thought leader, had written 50 books.

And I'm like, pinch, pinch, pinch.

Oh my gosh, I get to write a book with Marshall Goldsmith.

So I used my framework and every week I was like, Marshall, I need to get on your calendar.

Marshall, I need to get on your calendar.

Hello, Marshall, Marshall, Marshall, Marshall.

Drove him freaking nuts.

He ended up just kind of ignoring me.

And so finally I went to somebody else who had written a book with him.