Dr. Morris Chang

Actually, back in my mind, I was thinking of... The time when Kissinger was Nixon's national security advisor and somebody else, whose name I have even forgotten, was the Secretary of State. And Kissinger probably had a couple hundred people reporting to him. Whereas the Secretary of State had thousands of people all over the world reporting to him. And who had more power?

Actually, back in my mind, I was thinking of... The time when Kissinger was Nixon's national security advisor and somebody else, whose name I have even forgotten, was the Secretary of State. And Kissinger probably had a couple hundred people reporting to him. Whereas the Secretary of State had thousands of people all over the world reporting to him. And who had more power?

Except for those four years when I was not the CEO. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, but you were right. I was on the plane most of the time visiting customers. That was my pleasure. I really liked it. Well, anyway. So, I then, of course, offered the business development job to C.C. And he accepted it. I mean, I thought he accepted it. even delightfully, you know? Yeah.

Except for those four years when I was not the CEO. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, but you were right. I was on the plane most of the time visiting customers. That was my pleasure. I really liked it. Well, anyway. So, I then, of course, offered the business development job to C.C. And he accepted it. I mean, I thought he accepted it. even delightfully, you know? Yeah.

That's right. The board meeting had ended and it was, uh, six o'clock or later. And, uh, I went home. This was Taipei. We had our board meetings back at that time in, in fact, here. Have you ever seen my conference room? Yes, across the hall. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, we had all our board meetings in Taipei in that conference room. Anyway, it was 6.30 also when I got home, and I think...

That's right. The board meeting had ended and it was, uh, six o'clock or later. And, uh, I went home. This was Taipei. We had our board meetings back at that time in, in fact, here. Have you ever seen my conference room? Yes, across the hall. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, we had all our board meetings in Taipei in that conference room. Anyway, it was 6.30 also when I got home, and I think...

My wife knew that I would not be home until around 6.30 because as soon as I, she actually, she met me at the door, which wasn't very often. But this time she had something to tell me. That's why she met me at the door. She said, Terry Gao called in the afternoon. and said he was coming to dinner. And who is Terry Gao for listeners?

My wife knew that I would not be home until around 6.30 because as soon as I, she actually, she met me at the door, which wasn't very often. But this time she had something to tell me. That's why she met me at the door. She said, Terry Gao called in the afternoon. and said he was coming to dinner. And who is Terry Gao for listeners?

Terry Gao is a relative, is actually a second cousin of Sophie's. Sophie's my wife. And they share the same grandparents. That's what makes them second cousins, I think, yeah.

Terry Gao is a relative, is actually a second cousin of Sophie's. Sophie's my wife. And they share the same grandparents. That's what makes them second cousins, I think, yeah.

Right. Terry Gao is a second cousin of Sophie's, and he was also at that time the chairman of Foxconn.

Right. Terry Gao is a second cousin of Sophie's, and he was also at that time the chairman of Foxconn.

The name slipped my mind for a second. Hanhai, which is a very important supplier to Apple. And a pretty big company. And in fact, Terry Gao is reputed to be one of the richest men in Taiwan. Hmm. And she said, Sophie is lovely, but she doesn't know too much of my business. I don't think she understood the significance of Terry Gao coming to dinner, bringing a vice president from Apple.

The name slipped my mind for a second. Hanhai, which is a very important supplier to Apple. And a pretty big company. And in fact, Terry Gao is reputed to be one of the richest men in Taiwan. Hmm. And she said, Sophie is lovely, but she doesn't know too much of my business. I don't think she understood the significance of Terry Gao coming to dinner, bringing a vice president from Apple.

I don't think she quite understood, quite very, she didn't really, she wasn't very interested either in the significance of that.

I don't think she quite understood, quite very, she didn't really, she wasn't very interested either in the significance of that.

Yeah, I've been strategizing, well, strategizing is probably two things. strong a word. I mean, just thinking. Also knowing that we just can't do anything about it. Apple is a very close-mouthed company. If you try to talk to them, if you offer your service, they will just tell you to go away. They will come to see you when they are ready. That's what I knew about Apple, even then.

Yeah, I've been strategizing, well, strategizing is probably two things. strong a word. I mean, just thinking. Also knowing that we just can't do anything about it. Apple is a very close-mouthed company. If you try to talk to them, if you offer your service, they will just tell you to go away. They will come to see you when they are ready. That's what I knew about Apple, even then.

And I know the same thing now, you know. All right, so 8 o'clock. Now, Sophie did know that I would not be home until after 6 o'clock. So she had told Terry that, and Terry had set the time of their arrival at 8 o'clock. So 8 o'clock was a bit late for my dinner, but I said, what the heck, we'll wait. All right. So they showed up. I didn't ask her. Sophie just said, a vice president.

And I know the same thing now, you know. All right, so 8 o'clock. Now, Sophie did know that I would not be home until after 6 o'clock. So she had told Terry that, and Terry had set the time of their arrival at 8 o'clock. So 8 o'clock was a bit late for my dinner, but I said, what the heck, we'll wait. All right. So they showed up. I didn't ask her. Sophie just said, a vice president.