Dr. Ori Stollar
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Training Without Conflict® | Dog Training Podcast · Episode Fifty-Nine: Dr. Orion · 3 May 2025
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Again, it's a let's start, you know, let's let's start with this.
It is. And by the way, I completely agree with it again. And it's and you know what, that's actually something that that's important to know. But, you know, it's hard for me to actually respond to that specific paper because because I never read it. But Let me let me actually ask you like a quick question first, because we you just mentioned that we can't actually measure serotonin.
Did they do something to measure it? I mean, how do they know that they actually reduce the amount of serotonin in the brain?
Because, you know, if they also measured, you know, some of the metabolites or something like that in the blood, then you can argue the same way that you argue about what I mentioned.
spend let's let's not waste table this one and definitely get really interested to learn about again human medicine the brain is the brain it's similar between dogs and people and cats and other animals now but what I would like to say and that's that's really important
because it's very important for example to know that the name ssris so for people that don't know it's selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors so it sounds like oh yeah it's selective right it's selective for serotonin but in reality it's not that selective we actually have an effect on more than one
and neurotransmitter when we're using those selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors so and by the way there are differences between the different medications so prozac is just one example there are other medications some of them are more selective to serotonin but less selective to noradrenaline and or epinephrine and while others might be more
less selective for serotonin, but more selective to something else. So even and that's another reason that probably those different medications work differently on patients, because it's usually not just one thing that's missing, it's usually or one thing that's not working normally. So for example, maybe if we reduce the serotonin,
but other things are not affected maybe it might still be able to kind of like function normally and it's kind of like a specific balance that might be between the different things that are going on in the brain again i can't say too much about that specific study but i will say that the brain is such a complicated machine that i don't think that even if we could measure the the levels of
you know, the different neurotransmitters in the brain, I'm not sure that even then we would be able to know if and when specific medications might work better than others.
If you ask, I'm sure the psychiatrist that you're gonna speak to tomorrow, we'll be able to even pull out some some of those studies. There are studies again, they're done postmortem, right? They're not done on real life people, because you can't measure those, you can measure things in the brain, those type of things in the brain.
But, you know, they did test all kinds of brains from serial killers and, you know, people with chronic depression that committed suicide and stuff like that. So we do know some of these things. Does it accurately represent what's going on in the life person? Not necessary, right? We think it does. We do believe it does. Otherwise, we wouldn't be using those medications.
But again, I would say that, to me, and I think and although it is very important how the biological process actually works and and you know to know why we're using the medications that we're using there is to me a big important kind of look like i said before is it actually achieving anything and of course the side effects if i believe that the side effects have
more, you know, are going to affect the patient more than they're gonna actually help him, there's no way in hell that I'm going to use it. If I think that the benefits are higher than
I actually agree with you about that being overly used in dogs and cats as well.
Yeah, you said that they're basically numb.
Right. And so first, by the way, just the you might know about this book, but you know, if anyone is interested, and again, I'm not getting any money from anyone, I'm just doing it for the sake of if people want to learn a bit more, but I would say this is kind of like our Bible, the veterinary psychopharmacology. Of course, we also use other books. We use Stahl a lot.
You do? Yeah. Of course I do. No, no.
But But again, I am the way that we decide if the medication is working or not, in not actually causing side effects, or basically just numbing or flattening the dog out. So, of course, you know, we know it according to what the owner and the owners are reporting. He, for example, I tell the owners and you know, there are some side effects that might actually happen in the first
if we're talking specifically about, let's say, SSRIs. Some side effects might be much more common in the first two weeks because of how the medication itself works and the changes that actually take time and the changes in receptors and all of that in the brain. Because, by the way, and that's also important because the way that I explained it is not... is not entirely correct.
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