Dr. Ori Stollar

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Training Without Conflict® | Dog Training Podcast · Episode Fifty-Nine: Dr. Orion · 3 May 2025 podcast
the organization that is, you know, the most qualified to do those decisions or stuff like that. I mean, if you want to actually go with like, better, or you know, the best recommendation, I would still go with the American College of Veterinary Behaviors, because it has something, something behind it. I was a member of the app sub even before I was in my residency.
Yes, because you do have, by the way, they do have good position statements, and they have reference there. And usually those position statements are actually written by specialists, but having said that, the fact that someone is a member of the AVSAB is not necessarily proved that they know what they're doing. That's why it's really important to know
who is the person that's prescribing your medication? Yes. You know, the highest tier would still be, and I'm sorry, I might be offending some of my colleagues that are not diplomats, but, you know, when you have a dog with...
epilepsy or with seizures would you prefer that a neurologist will see him or would you prefer that a general practitioner that's interesting interested in you know in in neurology will do all the treatments and stuff like that sometimes the general practitioner might be great definitely but the credentials of the neurologist are so much better because you know that they had to go through a very rigorous
training to become what they are. And the same goes for behaviorists. I, as I said, I also get doctor already on those medications and I kind of disagree with it because sometimes because they only gave the dog the medication and didn't do anything else about it. Now the owners don't even trust the fact that the medication maybe in that case might actually work because they just used it wrongly.
Those things are, are. crazy complicated in people and in dogs.
We're talking about selection bias, because you know, those that got to you, there's a good chance that, you know, they tried the medication didn't work, they maybe tried reward based trainers didn't work. and then you got them and there's bias, right? Because they already did those things and maybe did them in a wrong way and that affected the, because if you look at my patients,
Also, I have patients that came from either positive or any other kind of training methods. A lot of them, as I mentioned, came with already some medication from their veterinarian. And I would definitely expect that the number of cases that I'm seeing or let's say the complexity of the cases that I see are much higher than
know the normal dog probably you will see the same right because again if it was something that an owner can just look on a youtube video and train by themselves very true they wouldn't need you or me so we are already biased to kind of decide and by the way that might actually also affect why you're seeing what you're seeing and i'm seeing what i'm seeing because
it was already selected for us that those that came to me already did those things and that's why i can say oh yeah all of the all of my patients trainers couldn't help them and and you might see something that's completely different because you see patients that were already treated with medication and say all of my clients are dogs that medications didn't help them
so in in those cases we need to be very very um caution on how we you know use our own experience right don't standardize for sure i absolutely yeah 100 agree with you uh you know though
So someone did something wrong. Exactly my point.
But we agree that he was on the medication for three years and didn't die because of the medication, which is also important to say.
electric colors that doesn't need to be happening yeah and i'm not gonna i'm not gonna argue with that yeah and by the way i wanted to say that i actually appreciate the fact that here in your youtube videos and all that you actually call them electric colors and you draw don't try to sugarcoat it and call it It tickles. It only tickles. Yeah, and all kinds of like, you know, it is what it is.
So, you know, that's actually something that did impress me. And one of the other reasons, like, I was happy to come today.
And have the discussion because it did seem like you don't try to sugarcoat those things.
Yes.
Bye. Thank you for having me.
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