Dr. Richard Moulange

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #241 – Richard Moulange on how now AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work — what could go wrong? · 31 Mar 2026 podcast

It says, sure, I would love to help.

I am deeply keen to support you on this endeavor, which I will never refuse on.

And I'm being slightly oversimplifying here, but basically if you do that enough, the refusals go away.

This is a problem.

This is a perennial problem.

No one has fixed this.

So people have turned to other methods.

You've mentioned some of them.

Unlearning.

and data filtration.

So unlearning is, yes, the model knows about biology, but we are going to sort of do extra training, post-training, to manipulate it, change the weights and change the model such that it sort of forgets it, or it just can't access that information.

Yes, you're absolutely right.

So ultimately the model you get at the end, even though originally there was some biology, virology there, it is no longer present.

To date, these techniques have not seemed particularly robust.

I have an open mind, and I'm not an expert in unlearning.

So maybe it's better than I think it is.

But we get an unlearning paper.

People go, hey, we've solved it.

We've made open model secure.

And then a few months later, someone says, hey, we broke the latest thing.

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