Dr. Rosalind Chow

I will say that his partner in crime, Greg Spencer, was definitely not on board. And part of that was because I'm not Black. Part of it is because I'm quite young, or at least I look young. And part of it was because I had no corporate experience. And so he thought I didn't have any... Anyway, I was out of my lane. I'm happy to say that I was able to convert him. into a believer.

I will say that his partner in crime, Greg Spencer, was definitely not on board. And part of that was because I'm not Black. Part of it is because I'm quite young, or at least I look young. And part of it was because I had no corporate experience. And so he thought I didn't have any... Anyway, I was out of my lane. I'm happy to say that I was able to convert him. into a believer.

I will say that his partner in crime, Greg Spencer, was definitely not on board. And part of that was because I'm not Black. Part of it is because I'm quite young, or at least I look young. And part of it was because I had no corporate experience. And so he thought I didn't have any... Anyway, I was out of my lane. I'm happy to say that I was able to convert him. into a believer.

He's a good friend and a mentor and a sponsor of mine now. But one of the things that they did was they made sure that I met with all the constituents that they were dealing with. So it was a lot of other black leaders. I also reached out to my network to talk with black professionals to figure out what would they want out of a program like this. And

He's a good friend and a mentor and a sponsor of mine now. But one of the things that they did was they made sure that I met with all the constituents that they were dealing with. So it was a lot of other black leaders. I also reached out to my network to talk with black professionals to figure out what would they want out of a program like this. And

He's a good friend and a mentor and a sponsor of mine now. But one of the things that they did was they made sure that I met with all the constituents that they were dealing with. So it was a lot of other black leaders. I also reached out to my network to talk with black professionals to figure out what would they want out of a program like this. And

I think what I really got from all of that kind of research was that I will never understand. And that's okay. Like that is something that I think all of us should be able to sit with is this idea that we can study things. We can know things in a way, but it's also okay to be intellectually humble and recognize where We can't go all the way on some of these issues.

I think what I really got from all of that kind of research was that I will never understand. And that's okay. Like that is something that I think all of us should be able to sit with is this idea that we can study things. We can know things in a way, but it's also okay to be intellectually humble and recognize where We can't go all the way on some of these issues.

I think what I really got from all of that kind of research was that I will never understand. And that's okay. Like that is something that I think all of us should be able to sit with is this idea that we can study things. We can know things in a way, but it's also okay to be intellectually humble and recognize where We can't go all the way on some of these issues.

I will never be able to understand, truly understand what it's like to be a Black American or trans or disabled. I will never truly understand that experience as much as I want to.

I will never be able to understand, truly understand what it's like to be a Black American or trans or disabled. I will never truly understand that experience as much as I want to.

I will never be able to understand, truly understand what it's like to be a Black American or trans or disabled. I will never truly understand that experience as much as I want to.

Oh, I think I want to be clear that I'm not saying that I don't take the, try to take the perspective of other people. That's not at all what I'm saying. What I do want to caution people on, however, is that this idea of just because we read it and we can read as much as we want and ironic coming to this statement as an academic, right, who my whole

Oh, I think I want to be clear that I'm not saying that I don't take the, try to take the perspective of other people. That's not at all what I'm saying. What I do want to caution people on, however, is that this idea of just because we read it and we can read as much as we want and ironic coming to this statement as an academic, right, who my whole

Oh, I think I want to be clear that I'm not saying that I don't take the, try to take the perspective of other people. That's not at all what I'm saying. What I do want to caution people on, however, is that this idea of just because we read it and we can read as much as we want and ironic coming to this statement as an academic, right, who my whole

Profession is about reading and learning is that we can do all those things and it still may not be enough to truly be, to truly be a part of that group or that to have that experience. And I don't think those are contradictory. But I do want to caution people from coming away and being like, oh, because I've read all these things, now I truly understand what it's like.

Profession is about reading and learning is that we can do all those things and it still may not be enough to truly be, to truly be a part of that group or that to have that experience. And I don't think those are contradictory. But I do want to caution people from coming away and being like, oh, because I've read all these things, now I truly understand what it's like.

Profession is about reading and learning is that we can do all those things and it still may not be enough to truly be, to truly be a part of that group or that to have that experience. And I don't think those are contradictory. But I do want to caution people from coming away and being like, oh, because I've read all these things, now I truly understand what it's like.

Because I also feel like that's intellectually a little dishonest too.

Because I also feel like that's intellectually a little dishonest too.