Dr. Rosalind Chow

Because I also feel like that's intellectually a little dishonest too.

Yeah. Okay. So we're having different assumptions about where people are in their journey, I guess, is where we're perhaps miscalibrated. You're thinking about someone who's starting from a much, a starting line that's maybe a little bit further back than what I was assuming.

Yeah. Okay. So we're having different assumptions about where people are in their journey, I guess, is where we're perhaps miscalibrated. You're thinking about someone who's starting from a much, a starting line that's maybe a little bit further back than what I was assuming.

Yeah. Okay. So we're having different assumptions about where people are in their journey, I guess, is where we're perhaps miscalibrated. You're thinking about someone who's starting from a much, a starting line that's maybe a little bit further back than what I was assuming.

Well, I actually think that's a really great kind of segue into some of the things that we, like I talk about in the book, which is how do we come to really know other people? What you're describing is essentially learning about other people's lives, either or experiences and

Well, I actually think that's a really great kind of segue into some of the things that we, like I talk about in the book, which is how do we come to really know other people? What you're describing is essentially learning about other people's lives, either or experiences and

Well, I actually think that's a really great kind of segue into some of the things that we, like I talk about in the book, which is how do we come to really know other people? What you're describing is essentially learning about other people's lives, either or experiences and

Through reading, right, through reading biographies or memoirs, I think most of us don't have access to that level of insight or personal introspection and personal history in our conversations with other people, but

Through reading, right, through reading biographies or memoirs, I think most of us don't have access to that level of insight or personal introspection and personal history in our conversations with other people, but

Through reading, right, through reading biographies or memoirs, I think most of us don't have access to that level of insight or personal introspection and personal history in our conversations with other people, but

I think what you're pointing to is wouldn't our world be so much richer for it if we were willing to ask those questions and be willing to share those, that type of information with each other. So why maybe some of us need to go to the books because we don't have friends who are different from us, right? And so we can't ask them personally about their experiences.

I think what you're pointing to is wouldn't our world be so much richer for it if we were willing to ask those questions and be willing to share those, that type of information with each other. So why maybe some of us need to go to the books because we don't have friends who are different from us, right? And so we can't ask them personally about their experiences.

I think what you're pointing to is wouldn't our world be so much richer for it if we were willing to ask those questions and be willing to share those, that type of information with each other. So why maybe some of us need to go to the books because we don't have friends who are different from us, right? And so we can't ask them personally about their experiences.

And so we have to get it like indirectly through the books, but you know, what would happen if you started asking some of those questions of the people who you see every day?

And so we have to get it like indirectly through the books, but you know, what would happen if you started asking some of those questions of the people who you see every day?

And so we have to get it like indirectly through the books, but you know, what would happen if you started asking some of those questions of the people who you see every day?

Right. And so actually one of the things that I talk about in the book is just how powerful it is for us to listen. I'm probably thinking about this because I just ran this exercise in my class. I describe it in the book. It's an, it's a listening exercise where people sit facing each other. I provide a series of questions and the thing that makes the exercise very challenging.

Right. And so actually one of the things that I talk about in the book is just how powerful it is for us to listen. I'm probably thinking about this because I just ran this exercise in my class. I describe it in the book. It's an, it's a listening exercise where people sit facing each other. I provide a series of questions and the thing that makes the exercise very challenging.

Right. And so actually one of the things that I talk about in the book is just how powerful it is for us to listen. I'm probably thinking about this because I just ran this exercise in my class. I describe it in the book. It's an, it's a listening exercise where people sit facing each other. I provide a series of questions and the thing that makes the exercise very challenging.

is when people are answering the question, they have complete, I wouldn't say control, but basically they have a certain amount of airtime that they're required to fill up by speaking. And the other person is not allowed to respond. So the other person can only listen. And we do this over three different rounds. The first round is two minutes. The second round is five minutes.